> ## Knowledge Base Index > Fetch the complete knowledge base index at: https://clockworks.crisp.help/sitemap.xml > Use this file to discover available pages before exploring further. > Pure-Markdown content can be obtained by appending a '.md' suffix to the content URLs listed in the sitemap (without the trailing slash). # What is a 461 Hermle Clock Movement? * [Knowledge Base](https://www.clockworks.com) * Notes on the Hermle 461 series clock movement ### Article sections ## 461 Hermle Clock Movement The Hermle [461 series](https://www.clockworks.com/clock-movement/hermle-clock-movement-461.html) clock movement is either chain or cable driven, three weight, Westminster chime unit. It is the same movement as the [1161 series](https://www.clockworks.com/clock-movement/hermle-clock-movement-1161.html), but Westminster only instead of triple chime. In other words it plays one song instead of three. But really, people with triple chime clocks only listen to Westminster in the end because it sounds the best. The [461-853](https://www.clockworks.com/product/new-461-853-clock-movement-by-hermle) is the most used of this series and is the most produced 461 also. ### The movement What is being offered on this web page is the 461 series clock movement only with out the [pendulum](https://www.clockworks.com/clock-parts/clock-pendulums.html), [chimeblock](https://www.clockworks.com/clock-parts/clock-chime-rods-parts.html) or [dail](https://www.clockworks.com/clock-parts/clock-moon-dials.html). These movement come as the movement itself with its hand nut and new [chains](https://www.clockworks.com/product/clock-chain-by-movement-maker) or [cables](https://www.clockworks.com/product/genuine-replacement-cable-for-grandfather-clocks), also comes with the [suspension spring](https://www.clockworks.com/product/clock-pendulum-suspension-spring) and [leader](https://www.clockworks.com/product/clock-pendulum-leader). ### The support We been [working on clocks](https://www.clockworks.com/clock-repair/clock-repair.html) for 100 years in [this family](https://www.clockworks.com/about-clockworks.html). If you get stuck, just as for help. In fact it does not matter if its 10 years from now, if you have questions, ask them by all means. The warranty on this movement from the [factory](https://hermleclock.com/) is 3 years. ### The speed To get a clock movement overhauled can seem like forever. Besides costing 3 times the amount of money as the new one, it can also take months to finish. When its done you get a working used movement back and hope it works. Not with the new one! Ships today, already oiled, instructions to put it in, no knock offs it is the same unit, the choice is obvious. The new one will come with the cables and pulleys already installed, or the chains depending on what one, its already oiled and ready to go. * A fraction of the price of an overhaul * Should last 25-30 years, an overhaul would not * Instructions and expert support * Hermle Clock Movement of Germany [](/pics/pics-hermle-clock-movement/461/461050explosion.jpg)